derhaka student
Jun 1 2004, 09:26 AM
kengkawan apa kegunaan dua menda ni...dari segi performance....tulun sy....tq
klu bole terbang sy x nak pakai la kat kete saya...nanti takde tempat landing
raven
Jun 1 2004, 10:20 AM
yg bluescreen tu leh adjust +-50% air/fuel setiap 500rpm..
yang 5 button leh smpi +-30% jer..
lagipun yg bluescreen tu ade lagi function mcm rev meter,throtel & byk lg..
kalo safc 2 bleh adjust setiap 200rpm..
`Gar
Jun 1 2004, 03:00 PM
kalau boh ni kete leh terbang tak?
Lebai_turbo
Jun 1 2004, 03:48 PM
dari segi performance...yg 10 button bole kasi kereta terbanggg
elzex
Jun 2 2004, 10:46 AM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jun 1 2004, 10:20 AM) |
ade ke rsm 5 button??? tu bkn afc er?
kalo rsm yg 1st generation ngn 2nd generation... ade la beza sket2.. function bluescreen byk sket..
kalo afc plak.. yg bluescreen tu leh adjust +-50% air/fuel.. yang 5 button leh smpi +-30% jer.. lagipun yg bluescreen tu ade lagi function mcm rev meter.. |
afc
kalo guna henjen L2, 5 button is more effective then using blue screen...
sebab teknologi L2 kan lama gak...
blue screen bagus kalo ko guna L5 tapi x seswai sangat utk L2
kelisa187
Jun 11 2004, 01:56 AM
saya ade gak dgr rumors macam yg si elzex ckp.5 button more compatible to L2 berbanding blue screen.kenape haa?kalo dipikir secara logik dan secara teori,sudah tentu blue screen lagi bagus since byk lagi function berbanding 5 button.dah tuh boleh betulkan fuel up to 50% berbanding 5 button cuma 30% saje.
pening saya dgr rumors nih.ade sape jawapan dia kenapa?adakah rumors ini betul?any bukti kukuh?
raven
Jun 11 2004, 12:23 PM
kalu rumors ni tak btoL..
si sam takkan jual bluescreen die..
org ckp tak smua function kat bluescreen boleh pakai kat L2(org cakap)..
tp ade gak geng L2 yang pakai..
takde pon denga rungutan dari dieorg..
lan(naliazor) pon pakai kalo tak silap a.ku...
oldschoolcustom
Jul 2 2004, 02:51 PM
saya dah jumpa dan bercakap dgn org yg pakai dan pasang safc kat L2, boleh jer.
beza RSM pulak, hmmm.
1, rupa
2, harga
3, feature GP: rev, speed, battery, trip meter, Time, split timer (lap), dispaly mode ada lebih dari 5 mode ikut mood, HP calculation with optional G-sensor.
RSM bluescreen tak besh
1.Senang diperhatikan
2.Senang nak kena curi
3.Tak banyak guna kalo tak gi race kat trek
kelisa187
Jul 2 2004, 08:14 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jun 11 2004, 12:23 PM) |
kalu rumors ni tak btoL.. si sam takkan jual bluescreen die.. org ckp tak smua function kat bluescreen boleh pakai kat L2(org cakap).. tp ade gak geng L2 yang pakai.. takde pon denga rungutan dari dieorg.. lan(naliazor) pon pakai kalo tak silap a.ku... |
masalahnye afc blue screen sam tuh dia tak setting dyno atau hantar tpt yg establish.Dia setting sendri.So bagi saya most probably setting try n error.So kemungkinan besar tak tepat.lagipun afr meter pun dia takda.Cemana nak read?
ntahlaa...mungkin saya salah.
KancilBuruk
Jul 3 2004, 07:59 PM
| QUOTE (Lebai_turbo @ Jun 1 2004, 03:48 PM) |
| dari segi performance...yg 10 button bole kasi kereta terbanggg |
stendet spec for Boeing 777....he he he!!
flamefox850
Jul 5 2004, 06:25 PM
satu kelemahan L2 ialah dia takde throttle high/low setting..takleh set kat safc blue screen...agak susah sket la. :L2 hanya ada On/off...takde half on ke 3suku on ke..takde
macam safc 5 butang tu....hanya setting 7200rpm yg hanya activate bila WOT (wide open throttle).. biasanya ia set 80% throttle dianggap WOT. setting yg lain sume takde kisah berapa banyak korang tekan pedal minyak, mungkin sebab tu yg 5 butang lebih reliable kot
mattroxxx
Jul 8 2004, 02:33 PM
ada perubahan yg ketara tak kalo n/a injection pakai?
lagi satu ada function cam turbo timer tak??
oldschoolcustom
Jul 9 2004, 12:08 PM
-------------------driver dia
bertambah riak dan tkbur
nanti dia goreng org yg tak tahu pasal mende tuh...
-RSM=------ rev speed meter
timer kena beli lain lerr..jangan le-r kemut--!------------------------
kelisa187
Jul 9 2004, 12:44 PM
| QUOTE (flamefox850 @ Jul 5 2004, 06:25 PM) |
satu kelemahan L2 ialah dia takde throttle high/low setting..takleh set kat safc blue screen...agak susah sket la. :L2 hanya ada On/off...takde half on ke 3suku on ke..takde macam safc 5 butang tu....hanya setting 7200rpm yg hanya activate bila WOT (wide open throttle).. biasanya ia set 80% throttle dianggap WOT. setting yg lain sume takde kisah berapa banyak korang tekan pedal minyak, mungkin sebab tu yg 5 butang lebih reliable kot |
yes.....ini alasan paling baik sebab org ckp bluescreen tak compatible ngan L2.
kelisa187
Jul 9 2004, 12:51 PM
| QUOTE (mattroxxx @ Jul 8 2004, 02:33 PM) |
ada perubahan yg ketara tak kalo n/a injection pakai? lagi satu ada function cam turbo timer tak?? |
perubahan tak ketara matroxx.mungkin add dlm 2-3 hp je.Tapi yg best bile masuk afc nih dan di setting ngan cantik,kete sgt smooth.respons sgt cepat.
Sebagai contoh mungkin slalu kita buat 400 meter lebih kurang 20saat.dgn pemakaian afc akan bagi respon cepat mungkin dpt dlm 18 saat,walaupun horsepower takde beza.
biasa nya kereta yg enjin stock dari factory tanpa apa-apa modifikasi,minyak telah di stting rich semasa keluar dari kilang lagi.Bila masuk je afc dan setting ngan betul, anda akan rasa lebih lagi penjimatan minyak since minyak lebih hanya diperlukan pada rpm atau dlm keaadan tertentu sahaja contohnya time high atau masa full throttle.Kalo kete dah mod byk lain citerlah.citer yg saya bagitau nih hanya utk kete yg buat light mod seperti full ekzos system dan masuk afc sahaje.
kalo salah sila betulkan.tq
mattroxxx
Jul 9 2004, 02:56 PM
| QUOTE (oldschoolcustom @ Jul 9 2004, 11:08 AM) |
-------------------driver dia bertambah riak dan tkbur nanti dia goreng org yg tak tahu pasal mende tuh... |
w/pun kdg2 gi goreng org yg tahu...
KancilBuruk
Jul 13 2004, 11:59 PM
raven
Jul 14 2004, 11:01 AM
| QUOTE (kelisa187 @ Jul 9 2004, 12:44 PM) |
| QUOTE (flamefox850 @ Jul 5 2004, 06:25 PM) | satu kelemahan L2 ialah dia takde throttle high/low setting..takleh set kat safc blue screen...agak susah sket la. :L2 hanya ada On/off...takde half on ke 3suku on ke..takde macam safc 5 butang tu....hanya setting 7200rpm yg hanya activate bila WOT (wide open throttle).. biasanya ia set 80% throttle dianggap WOT. setting yg lain sume takde kisah berapa banyak korang tekan pedal minyak, mungkin sebab tu yg 5 butang lebih reliable kot |
yes.....ini alasan paling baik sebab org ckp bluescreen tak compatible ngan L2.
|
oOo...
camtu..
yang peliknya ade org yg pakai & ckp smua function leh guna..
dieorg ade ubah pape ke?
kongsi sket sape2 yg dh pasang..
suhaimi_mz
Jul 14 2004, 12:38 PM
betul rsn blue screen x dapat record top speed n speedometer kalau buang speed cut pd ecu???
raven
Jul 15 2004, 04:45 PM
| QUOTE (suhaimi_mz @ Jul 14 2004, 12:38 PM) |
| betul rsn blue screen x dapat record top speed n speedometer kalau buang speed cut pd ecu??? |
lor..
nape nak buang speed cut ecu plak..?
kan rsm blue screen ade funtion utk set speed limiter..
kalo main potong wire / bukak skru blkg meter may be x dapat record kot..
speed pon tak detect..
kelisa187
Jul 18 2004, 03:50 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 14 2004, 11:01 AM) |
| QUOTE (kelisa187 @ Jul 9 2004, 12:44 PM) | | QUOTE (flamefox850 @ Jul 5 2004, 06:25 PM) | satu kelemahan L2 ialah dia takde throttle high/low setting..takleh set kat safc blue screen...agak susah sket la. :L2 hanya ada On/off...takde half on ke 3suku on ke..takde macam safc 5 butang tu....hanya setting 7200rpm yg hanya activate bila WOT (wide open throttle).. biasanya ia set 80% throttle dianggap WOT. setting yg lain sume takde kisah berapa banyak korang tekan pedal minyak, mungkin sebab tu yg 5 butang lebih reliable kot |
yes.....ini alasan paling baik sebab org ckp bluescreen tak compatible ngan L2.
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oOo... camtu.. yang peliknya ade org yg pakai & ckp smua function leh guna.. dieorg ade ubah pape ke? kongsi sket sape2 yg dh pasang..
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kalau tak salah takde lagi kereta yg dpt pakai sume function dlm safc nih.tak kire lah evo atau impreza skali pun.contohnya sensor hot wire dan 2-3 jenis lagik.
mattroxxx
Jul 20 2004, 11:14 AM
G-sensor...optional
kalo tak silap f1 cars ada G ni...tp 1G je kot...
kalo jet pejuang maybe cecah 6/7G
suhaimi_mz
Jul 20 2004, 04:22 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 15 2004, 04:45 PM) |
| QUOTE (suhaimi_mz @ Jul 14 2004, 12:38 PM) | | betul rsn blue screen x dapat record top speed n speedometer kalau buang speed cut pd ecu??? |
lor.. nape nak buang speed cut ecu plak..? kan rsm blue screen ade funtion utk set speed limiter.. kalo main potong wire / bukak skru blkg meter may be x dapat record kot.. speed pon tak detect..
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masa nak pakai rsm tp dah buang speed cut pd ecu...how da rsm nak detect right???
raven
Jul 20 2004, 04:32 PM
| QUOTE (suhaimi_mz @ Jul 20 2004, 04:22 PM) |
| masa nak pakai rsm tp dah buang speed cut pd ecu...how da rsm nak detect right??? |
pakai ecu ketit ka?
ecu ketit bleh pakai ngn rsm blue screen..
smua function bleh guna..
top speed n spedometer boleh detect..
tak de masalah..
matrox: kete ako nak cecah pon 0.5G mmg tak dapat.. tp kalo -0.5G senang2 jer dapat...
suhaimi_mz
Jul 20 2004, 04:49 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 20 2004, 04:32 PM) |
| QUOTE (suhaimi_mz @ Jul 20 2004, 04:22 PM) | | masa nak pakai rsm tp dah buang speed cut pd ecu...how da rsm nak detect right??? |
pakai ecu ketit ka? ecu ketit bleh pakai ngn rsm blue screen.. smua function bleh guna.. top speed n spedometer boleh detect.. tak de masalah..
matrox: kete ako nak cecah pon 0.5G mmg tak dapat.. tp kalo -0.5G senang2 jer dapat...
|
memang dah no cut sejak azali lagi.......
masih std from japan......
HybRidNoS
Jul 21 2004, 11:20 AM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 20 2004, 08:32 AM) |
smua function bleh guna.. top speed n spedometer boleh detect.. tak de masalah..
matrox: kete ako nak cecah pon 0.5G mmg tak dapat.. tp kalo -0.5G senang2 jer dapat... |
cehh.. semua funtion leh guna yerr..... mentang mentang dia ada pakai g-sensor...
berapa hp keter ko haa... ? tak try test guna RSM+G-sensor tuh kerrr...?
raven
Jul 21 2004, 11:49 AM
| QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 21 2004, 11:20 AM) |
| berapa hp keter ko haa... ? tak try test guna RSM+G-sensor tuh kerrr...? |
ko tau tak berat kancil berenjin L2...?
nanti ako test bape hp..
HybRidNoS
Jul 21 2004, 01:55 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 21 2004, 03:49 AM) |
| QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 21 2004, 11:20 AM) | | berapa hp keter ko haa... ? tak try test guna RSM+G-sensor tuh kerrr...? |
ko tau tak berat kancil berenjin L2...? nanti ako test bape hp..
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letak 800kg jer... tambah 60kg berat ko... hehehe..
pastu kira hp.. wokehhh...
raven
Jul 22 2004, 11:29 AM
| QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 21 2004, 01:55 PM) |
letak 800kg jer... tambah 60kg berat ko... hehehe.. pastu kira hp.. wokehhh... |
iyo je nko..
starlet pon berat dalam 800kg..
HybRidNoS
Jul 22 2004, 12:56 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 22 2004, 03:29 AM) |
| QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 21 2004, 01:55 PM) | letak 800kg jer... tambah 60kg berat ko... hehehe.. pastu kira hp.. wokehhh... |
iyo je nko.. starlet pon berat dalam 800kg..
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hehee...habis tu letak 750kg....
atau racing spec.. buang semua barang dalam keter, seat sebijik jer,
tulang pintu,tulang bonet depan blakang buang... 600kg..
suhaimi_mz
Jul 22 2004, 01:56 PM
| QUOTE (KancilBuruk @ Jul 13 2004, 11:59 PM) |
APEXi RSM-GP

Functions:
 |
yg nie completed x dgn g-sensor?? function tak kat l2s sumer item kat dlm??
kelisa187
Jul 23 2004, 01:29 AM
| QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 22 2004, 12:56 PM) |
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 22 2004, 03:29 AM) | | QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 21 2004, 01:55 PM) | letak 800kg jer... tambah 60kg berat ko... hehehe.. pastu kira hp.. wokehhh... |
iyo je nko.. starlet pon berat dalam 800kg..
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hehee...habis tu letak 750kg.... atau racing spec.. buang semua barang dalam keter, seat sebijik jer, tulang pintu,tulang bonet depan blakang buang... 600kg..
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pi kat jpj laa mintak dia timbang kete baper berat.cam diorang slalu timbang lori tuh.hihih
HybRidNoS
Jul 23 2004, 11:21 AM
| QUOTE (kelisa187 @ Jul 22 2004, 05:29 PM) |
| QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 22 2004, 12:56 PM) | | QUOTE (raven @ Jul 22 2004, 03:29 AM) | | QUOTE (HybRidNoS @ Jul 21 2004, 01:55 PM) | letak 800kg jer... tambah 60kg berat ko... hehehe.. pastu kira hp.. wokehhh... ;) |
iyo je nko.. starlet pon berat dalam 800kg..
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hehee...habis tu letak 750kg.... atau racing spec.. buang semua barang dalam keter, seat sebijik jer, tulang pintu,tulang bonet depan blakang buang... 600kg..
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pi kat jpj laa mintak dia timbang kete baper berat.cam diorang slalu timbang lori tuh.hihih
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hah.. cadangan bernas gak tuhh... :D apo lagi reben...
raven
Jul 24 2004, 01:34 PM
yang komplete ngn g sensor..
tuhhh.. yang ade tulis F/R(foward/rear) & L/R(left&right)..
pastu berubah + & -...
yang pic ke-2 tu pon monitor utk g sensor gak..
smua function bleh pakai..
kelisa&hybrid: g jpj kene cas pape tak?
HybRidNoS
Jul 24 2004, 02:34 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 24 2004, 05:34 AM) |
kelisa&hybrid: g jpj kene cas pape tak? |
tak yah cas apa apa....
bila dia tanya apasal nak timbang... ko cakap, nak buat seludup beras siam... habis crita.
kelisa187
Jul 24 2004, 09:36 PM
hehehe.siot je.haku tak tau kene cas atau tak since haku tak penah lagi jumpa org yg nak gi timbang kete dia bape kati.anyway kat SIC bleh gak timbang kot sebab slalu ada race kan dia kene ikut berat kete.
mattroxxx
Jul 26 2004, 02:42 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 24 2004, 05:34 AM) |
kelisa&hybrid: g jpj kene cas pape tak? |
nak pegi tu boleh..tp nak nunggu tu berjanggut sehh..panas plak tu...
raven
Jul 28 2004, 10:36 AM
| QUOTE (mattroxxx @ Jul 26 2004, 02:42 PM) |
| nak pegi tu boleh..tp nak nunggu tu berjanggut sehh..panas plak tu... |
tguu lame tak kisah..
ako bleh bwk gillete..
kelisa187
Jul 28 2004, 08:42 PM
hehehe...hampehh....
raven
Jul 29 2004, 04:56 PM
| QUOTE (kelisa187 @ Jul 28 2004, 08:42 PM) |
| hehehe...hampehh.... |
weh kelisa..
takkan ko taktau berat kanciL..
slalunye ko tau..
HybRidNoS
Jul 30 2004, 12:01 PM
| QUOTE (raven @ Jul 29 2004, 08:56 AM) |
| QUOTE (kelisa187 @ Jul 28 2004, 08:42 PM) | | hehehe...hampehh.... |
weh kelisa.. takkan ko taktau berat kanciL.. slalunye ko tau..
|
aiii..tak kira kira lagi kerrr.. lambat la ko rebennn...
kelisa187
Jul 30 2004, 02:58 PM
dok tau laa raven.tak tau nak pi tanya mana.pegi kat tpt servis perodua tuh pun depa tak tau.hampehh..
xri
Jul 30 2004, 05:21 PM
650kg??
kelisa187
Jul 30 2004, 08:55 PM
kelisa?
raven
Aug 4 2004, 10:57 AM
| QUOTE (xri @ Jul 30 2004, 05:21 PM) |
| 650kg?? |
iyer ke nie?
HybRidNoS
Aug 4 2004, 11:49 AM
| QUOTE (raven @ Aug 4 2004, 02:57 AM) |
| QUOTE (xri @ Jul 30 2004, 05:21 PM) | | 650kg?? |
iyer ke nie?
|
iyaaa......
fezz
Aug 4 2004, 12:06 PM
| QUOTE (kelisa187 @ Jul 30 2004, 02:58 PM) |
| dok tau laa raven.tak tau nak pi tanya mana.pegi kat tpt servis perodua tuh pun depa tak tau.hampehh.. |
Nah...Full specs...........Lain kali tanyerlah owang Majalah....Hehehehehe
KELISA EX, GXi & EZi
Engine
EJ-VE petrol, transverse, water cooled, in-line 3 cylinder, DOHC, 12 valve with VVT
Bore/stroke
72 x 81 mm
Capacity
989 cc
Max Power
55PS (40.5kW) at 5,200 rpm
Compression ratio
10.0:1
Max Torque
88.3 Nm at 3,600 rpm
Fuel System
Electronic sequential fuel injection
Transmission
Manual 5-speed
Automatic 3-speed
1st
3.417
2.731
2nd
1.947
1.526
3rd
1.250
1.000
4th
0.865
5th
0.707
Reverse
3.143
2.290
Final Drive
3.938
3.966
Clutch
Dry single plate with diaphragm spring
Suspension
Front
Independent MacPherson strut, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Rear
Semi-trailing arm with 3-link location, coil springs, beam axle
Brakes Solid front discs/rear drums with servo assistance
Steering
Type
Rack and pinion with power assistance
Turning circle
4.6 metres
Wheels/tyres
4.5J with 155/65R13
Economy
Urban (mpg)
44.1
36.7
Extra-urban (mpg)
64.2
48.7
Combined (mpg)
55.4
43.5
CO2 (g/km)
121
153
Fuel tank capacity
40 litres
Load capacity
155/426 litres VDA
Performance
0-60 mph
14.8 secs
17.2 secs
Top Speed
88 mph
87 mph
Dimensions
Length
3490 mm
Width
1490mm
Height
1420 mm
Interior length
1720 mm
Interior width
1220 mm
Interior height
1170 mm
Wheelbase
2345 mm
Track front
1310 mm
Track rear
1280 mm
Min ground clearance
130 mm
Kerb weight
EX 760kg, GX 760kg, EZ 770kg
Gross vehicle weight
1270 kg
Warranty
2 year, 24,000 miles
6-year anti-perforation
1 year road side assistance
Service Intervals
10,000 miles/1 year
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